I just had to ask: is that an EOD suit? Nice piece of armor, LOL!

DScottHewitt,

To my knowledge you are right, the level IIA defeats the 9mm at most, and only the level I is weaker, just stab- and puncture-resistant. (That's how I remember it, don't take it as gospel. )

Aww guys, Gecko can't be serious (or he's totally messed up ). So lighten up

I loved the idea of him taking rounds while his partner shot back. Kinda reminds me of an idea we had in the army: if an urban assault team has a grenade thrown at them, the nearest team member jumps on it and shields the rest of the team with his body. Hey, only one sure casualty instead of many possible casualties. You can bet we were as gungho as MPs can possibly be.
Now we're older and wiser, I hope...

Have you ever read "The Things They Carried?" It's a great work of fiction/non-fiction dealing with war stories from Vietnam. I don't have the book near by but if I remember correctly the author tells it something like this:

Have you ever heard the story of the platoon walking through the rice paddies. A grenade gets lobbed over some shrubbery and a man dives on it. It kills him, but saves the whole platoon. Everyone knows this story.

According to the author a more realistic war story would go like this:

The grenade comes at the platoon and the lead man jumps on it, but this is one mean grenade and it blows them all up anyway! As they are lying there dying another soldier asks the lead man "what the f**k did you do that for?"

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BD #91 & Wheeler #13
"and much it grieves my heart to think what man has made of man"

read this thread thoroughly, and you'll notice MarkTHG has moved it into Lighter Side from another forum, and the last time I checked MarkTHG was the moderator of Carry Issues forum. So there's the reason, probably. I sure looks like a joke to me, but was posted in the wrong forum originally. Nice thread anyways

"...As of late I
have taken to duct-taping a second trauma plate to the area of my back where the heart and vital organs are located... although tactically sound, is hot and painful to remove.." LOL!

"..What I am worried about is repeated hits to that area with .308 ammunition.." hehehe!

"...BTW, I am, of course, usually carrying a pair of ceramic plates in my briefcase so that I can shield my head..."

"..The plan is that I shield us with my body and "catch the rounds" while she assembles the NEF. I lay down covering fire
with my 23 (Bar-Sto .357 Sig barrel) and she makes the long shots. I will then throw smoke grenades to obscure the area
while continuing to lay covering fire. The problem, of course, is when I have to turn my back to run, and then the problem
crops up. ..." NO DOUBT!!!

"... Yes Im not a Green Beret but guess
what neither are you and unlike you I have to face unruly shoppers every day..."

(For this tough assignment he wants:

3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we
lose power in the building.
3) Glock 27 backup guns
3) Kahr P-9 holdout
WOW!!)

".. I am a Master of three
martial arts including ninjitsu, which means I can wear the special boots to climb walls...." LOL,.. Whewwww!!

"..I don't think any of you are working
as hard as I am to be prepared.." He's got that right!

and finally,

"..If you want
to laugh at somebody, try laughing at the sheep out there who go to the mall unarmed trusting in me to stand guiard over their
lives like a God..."

I for one am hoping he originally meant to post it in The Lighter Side. It did start out in Carry Issues, BTW. If he is serious, I would hate to see his shrink bill. Must be more than his team's annual training budget (400 rounds PER DAY PER PERSON!!)

Scott

(EDITED FOR I DROPPED A WORD OR TWO)
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I turned in all my guns and all I got was these lousy leg irons.....

Hope there are no stolen CD's discovered today, ninja boy would come unglued and the whole world could come to an end.

Scott

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Originally posted by larry_minn:
I am also worried that we might have scared him away. Maybe we did not take his fears seriously enough???

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we can only hope!

I had said that I wouldn't trust even level IV armor to stop a .308. Realize how little of an area the level IV actually protects. A true sniper would go for the head shot Anyway.

CranialCrusader

Face it, if a good shot with a scoped .308 is stalking you and you leave the safety of the interior of your home, you're cooked. Why do you think so many Secret Service personnel get ulcers and ask to be transferred?

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Tamara's House of Weapons: If we can't kill it, it's immortal.
10 Ring #2910, Wheelhouse #6254455, Club .40*&*, Top Guns *.357sig* club, Big Dawg #447
10mm: It's not the size of the Dawg in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!

Scott

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UP, MEN! UP! AND TO YOUR POSTS! AND LET NO MAN FORGET TODAY THAT YOU ARE FROM OLD VIRGINIA!

I'm still LMAO at
3) MP5K-PDW with red-dot sights;
2) G36 rifles using SS109 rounds;
3) Glock practical tacticles in .357 Sig
1) PSG-1 using Fed Gold Medal .308
1) Starlight scope for the PSG-1 in case we
lose power in the building.
3) Glock 27 backup guns
3) Kahr P-9 holdouts

G.A.

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"-Owning a gun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a violin makes you a musician! PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!"
"Get yourself a GLOCK and lose that nickel plated sissy-pistol!!"
"No cops, know anarchy!"
"I drink grape juice because O.J. kills!"

Scott

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UP, MEN! UP! AND TO YOUR POSTS! AND LET NO MAN FORGET TODAY THAT YOU ARE FROM OLD VIRGINIA!

Scott

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UP, MEN! UP! AND TO YOUR POSTS! AND LET NO MAN FORGET TODAY THAT YOU ARE FROM OLD VIRGINIA!

Who did you have in mind?

Scott

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UP, MEN! UP! AND TO YOUR POSTS! AND LET NO MAN FORGET TODAY THAT YOU ARE FROM OLD VIRGINIA!