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| Gecko45 Member Posts: 26 |
 posted 03-25-2001 01:30
 
Todd, I have recently been attempting to acquire an SW5 for my work as one of a group of security personnel. I have heard good things about your guns on most of the gun boards, except of course for the ones where they treat everybody badly. I have already purchased two of your SW3’s from an estate sale, I had a chance to pick up a lot of different guns, but I wanted an SW, and am pleased with the quality, fit and finish. I am going to go test fire them Tuesday, the tax refund was good to me! Do you have any ammunition reccomendations? I am planning on using American Eagle 9mm. I am wondering who I can purchase an SW5 from in upstate NY, and whether or not you will take a credit card. My employer said that he would pay for one of is choosing, but that it would be a police surplus HK. I think it would be better to have a new gun that is just as good as an HK, than one of those used German guns. I will purchase it personally, and keep it when I retire. I have been to your website, and all of the guns look great. In a month, I would like to purchase one of your HK91 clones, although I could go with a parts gun, I would prefer to purchase from a reputable manufacturer. Let me know where I can get one, and I want people here who don’t like Todd to know that these guns I have now look great, and I’ll bet that Tuesday, they shoot great too. I think lots of people here are just envious of a businessman who actually sells stuff. Anyhow, good luck, and keep up the good work, this world needs your better guns. Gecko45 [This message has been edited by Gecko45 (edited 03-25-2001).] IP: Logged |
| sparky Member Posts: 123 |
posted 03-25-2001 01:47
THIS SMELLS FISSHY. IP: Logged |
| HKZ Member Posts: 41 |
posted 03-25-2001 03:27
Fishy does not even begin to describe how this smells. He has cleaned up his spelling, I guess he found the spell-check feature on the ole' PC. However, the "TRADE MARK" run on sentences are still intact. Oh well. IP: Logged |
| Gecko45 Member Posts: 26 |
posted 03-25-2001 03:39
I am not Todd, I am just a guy who wants to ask him some questiosn about these very nice Special Weapons guns I just got, and I don't see why everyone is so nasty with him anyhow, has ever anyone proved that he cheated somebody, I did not think so. I think that you should give his products a chance, in my line of work we only use the best, and these look like they are the best, so that is why I bought them. IP: Logged |
| HKZ Member Posts: 41 |
posted 03-25-2001 03:50
Whatever you say... Todd. [This message has been edited by HKZ (edited 03-25-2001).] IP: Logged |
| Gecko45 Member Posts: 26 |
posted 03-25-2001 04:09
Why must I repeat myself, I am not Todd, I am a security officer, and I need some questions answered about my choice of on duty weapon. Why must you persist in saying that I am Todd? I am a professional, with a serious job, and when I need answers about the equipment I trust my life to, I go to the source. I'll bet that all of you do not have jobs where people's lives may be at stake, so you use some other gun, but I'll bet you the first time I shoot my SW3's, they'll work better than the HK ever would. IP: Loghgged |
| Gecko45 Member Posts: 26 |
posted 03-25-2001 04:13
Why must I repeat myself, I am not Todd, I am a security officer, and I need some questions answered about my choice of on duty weapon. Why must you persist in saying that I am Todd? I am a professional, with a serious job, and when I need answers about the equipment I trust my life to, I go to the source. I'll bet that all of you do not have jobs where people's lives may be at stake, so you use some other gun, but I'll bet you the first time I shoot my SW3's, they'll work better than the HK ever would. IP: Logged |
| HKZ Member Posts: 41 |
posted 03-25-2001 04:58
Listen, I have nothing against you todd. I would like you to know that I have absolutely ZERO experience with your product. I just think it is really silly for a grown man to do what you are doing. I am not sure where you received an education; but you certainly need to work on your writing skills. You are making a very poor attempt to impersonate someone who just "HAPPENED," by chance no mind you, to post on HK91. I will give you an example. "I am not Todd,"-Gecko45 (aka todd) Okay. That should be a sentence in itself. It should read, "I am not Todd." Notice the period at the end of the sentence, this lets the reader know that you have completed a statement or thought. ",I am just a guy who wants to ask him some questiosn (-questions) about these very nice Special Weapons guns I just got (-received), and I don't see why everyone is so nasty with (-towards) him anyhow, has ever (<--?) anyone proved that he cheated somebody, I did (do) not think so."-Gecko45 (aka todd) This is something else that gives you away everytime you post under an alias. Look at that mess! It is an English teachers nightmare. How did you come to ascertain that people are calling Todd a cheat without ever posting on HK91 before today? Try this: "I am just a guy who wants to ask Todd some questions." "I don't see why everyone is so nasty towards Todd." "Is there any proof that Todd cheated someone? I do not think so." You have three completely different topics, or thoughts, in one run-on sentence. Split them up. Seperate your thoughts so that the reader may get some idea of what it is you are trying to say. "I think that you should give his products a chance, in my line of work we only use the best, and these look like they are the best, so that is why I bought them."-Gecko45 (aka todd) Again, like with all your alias', you are using a long run-on sentence. Some more free English lessons. At no charge mind you! "I think that people should give Todds products a chance. In my line of work we only use the best. Todds product look like the best, that is why I purchased them." Do you see the trend I have going with the period at the end of each sentence? If this is the game you are going to play here, I suggest you go to your local grammar or junior high school and find some kid to do your writing for you. I am sure they will not charge you more than $10 or so. Otherwise stop making these extremely hokey attempts to try and impersonate someone else. It really makes you look bad. P.S. Did you go to a public school? If so, I WANT MY MONEY BACK! [This message has been edited by HKZ (edited 03-25-2001).] [This message has been edited by HKZ (edited 03-25-2001).] IP: Logged |
| HKZ Member Posts: 41 |
posted 03-25-2001 05:12
DARN. FOILED AGAIN! IP: Logged |
| HKZ Member Posts: 41 |
posted 03-25-2001 05:24
BTW todd, refering to SW weapons as superior to HK made weapons is another dead give away... Gecko45 (snicker) it is nice to see that you left an email address so that "TODD" could email you direct! Or better yet, why not email "TODD" direct. Oh no, it is much simpler to post on HK91 so that everyone can see what a great product SW produces! This really is too much! I have to tell my sister, the "SHRINK," about the likes of you. You are a case study in the making. [This message has been edited by HKZ (edited 03-25-2001).] [This message has been edited by HKZ (edited 03-25-2001).] IP: Logged |
| fn.fnc Member Posts: 21 |
posted 03-25-2001 09:18
This is a poor attempt for us to believe that anyone other than a civilian would use a SW5. If you are looking for the "best" you would have HK. If it has been proven effective for the past 35 years, why would you switch to a CLONE of that design? The original is less $$ and a heck of a less hassle to obtain and get repaired if necessary. Nice try Todd, but no cigar. Fishey can't even begin to describe the desperation on Todd's part to sell these things. IP: Logged |
| arcom Member Posts: 65 |
posted 03-25-2001 10:01
Hey Todd, were you raised by wolves or in some way that has left you so starved for attention you resort to this? Nobody except some geeked out square- badger-cop-wannabe would carry an SW5 for security work. Hey, I think I'm on to something.... Besides, it's Geico not Geko. But I still like my PDW. I also thought DeLorean built a good car. IP: Logged |
| Todd Member Posts: 519 |
posted 03-25-2001 10:14
To answer the question we use Wolff ammo only in all the test firing of our guns and during all Machine gun shoots in AZ that one of our guys goes to we also use Wolff. We use to reload 9mm but we could not keep up with production on my Dillion 650, so we started buying American eagle (great ammo) and that also works great but a bite pricy. So we contacted Wolff and explained what we do and how much ammo we use a month, 2000 rounds of 9mm and 2500 rounds of 45 acp, and then during maching gun shoots we use up another 5000 a month. So they cut us a deal we could not pass up and we switched. Wolff is a little on the low side anyway so this helps with trouble shooting anyway. We have now change our policy to shoot 10 rounds continious out of every gun before we ship them, if we get one jam or sticky hammer or ftf, we stop tear the gun down evaluate the issue and then require 20 to go through that gun. Since increasing the rounds shot through guns in January we have had 0 guns returned for any issues at all. As well as most of the guns tested, about 90%, pass the first time. We are adding new tooling and process to the production of our guns and will keep everyone posted as to those in the coming months. I hope this helps. IP: Logged |
| HKZ Member Posts: 41 |
posted 03-25-2001 11:20
There you go with the run-on sentences again. At least you are using your "real" name on the last post. We still can't fully understand what the hell you are trying to tell us. Your last post has me dumb-founded, and it doesn't fit with any of the previous posts on this thread. Doesn't your illustrious business make enough $$$ to hire a secretary or P.R. person. I think that would be a step in the right direction! IP: Logged |
| Nordic Member Posts: 129 |
posted 03-25-2001 11:44
quote: First of all, assuming you are who you say you are, why would you go to the manufacturer to ask them about their products? Do you really think someone's going to tell you "Our stuff is crap, don't buy it."? You go to other professionals. You talk to agencys that spend big bucks on testing and reviewing these weapons and ask them why they bought what they bought. I would bet you anything that the department that was going to sell that used HK was replacing it with a new HK, not a SW5!
quote: Next, the way a weapon looks doesn't say anything as to how it's going to shoot. I'd rather have a beat up and well used surplus SKS than something that looks nice but hasn't proven itself. Also, have you actually ever fired a real HK91, or any other HK product for that matter? You say you're a professional. My question is a professional what? I just pray that you don't ever become a cop in my town because I would rather trust my safety to the rent-a-cop that guards Todd's burger joint. ------------------ IP: Logged |
| defii Member Posts: 73 |
posted 03-25-2001 13:45
One last question Gecko: What kind of security work do you do that you reqire such a weapon? What are you guarding? The SW factory? These postings under multiple user names really need to stop TODD. But if you insist on doing it, have enough self control to not chime in as your real self. [This message has been edited by defii (edited 03-25-2001).] IP: Logged |
| SteyrAUG Moderator Posts: 498 |
posted 03-25-2001 15:02
Last time I checked class G (armed) security guards were restricted to .38 cal revolvers as duty weapons. NO state would authorize the use of a semi automatic carbine or rifle made by anyone. I would think that Todd would know this given his expertise in low paying occupations. ------------------ IP: Logged |
| Gecko45 Member Posts: 26 |
posted 03-25-2001 15:06
To answer your question about where I work and what I guard, I the liutenant of a 3 man Rapid Tactical Force Team, in one of the nation's largest indoor retail shopping centers. My job job is to defend and protect the lives of the many shoppers who currently vist this center, and in my line of work you cannot be too careful. My job requires that my weapons be of the highest quality, and compared to the HK94 my Team Leader owns, it is a great gun. The HK MP5SD we tesst fired was quiet, but kept jamminng with Hydra-Shoks. The round would go "nose up" out of the magazine, and stop the bolt, and I kept having to clear the chamber. I will not buy any more HK's because of these FTF's, the Civvie-leagal HK94 does the same thing. We are completely done with pistol caliber HK's on our taem, our equipment must be reliable. For the smae reason, however, we will continue to use the G36 rifles for patrol, be cause they do work more smoothly than the M4's. I just need a reliable replacement for the HK's, and we chose SW because of their availibility and reputation. Only the best. Gecko45 IP: Logged |
| Gecko45 Member Posts: 26 |
posted 03-25-2001 15:11
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| HKZ Member Posts: 41 |
posted 03-25-2001 15:12
You don't know when to quit todd! Can't you see what a complete ass you are making of yourself? This is so sad... And for your alter ego "Gecko45" if you were the Lt. of any "security" force I don't think you could hold a job for very long; much less retain one with the writing skills you have exhibited. Last time I checked decent report writing skills were a necessity in the "security" and law enforcement fields.
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| William
Gunn Member Posts: 37 |
posted 03-25-2001 16:17
quote: Gecko45, Your mall security force evaluated the HK MP5 and determined it was too unreliable for adoption? That's funny because every CT group worth mentioning uses the HK MP5 not to mention well known and respected tactical teams such as the LAPD SWAT. The MP5 has shortcomings but to claim one of them is being unreliable is ridiculous. This shows how unknowledgeable you are about weapons systems in general. IP: Logged |
| BobaFett Member Posts: 150 |
posted 03-25-2001 16:24
yeah thats like saying: "we tested a ferrari f50 but needed something a little faster so were going with a honda civic.." IP: Logged |
| infantry556 Member Posts: 1 |
posted 03-25-2001 16:24
Hello Gecko45, or should I say MALL NINJA!!! just some real quick advice: Stay away from Special Weapons, to call them s#@t would be too nice. Also, saved the mayors nephew? is that some kind of f#@king joke? For everyone who doesn't know the whole mall ninja story check out this link: www.mallninja.com infantry556 out.
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| JeffG Member Posts: 41 |
posted 03-25-2001 16:37
Am I missing something here? Gecko, 1)you say you are looking to buy an SW5 (meaning you do not have it yet) 2)but you DO have two SW3s. 3)which you are going to test fire soon. 4)WITH AMERICAN EAGLE 9MM!!!!! Last I checked the SW3 was chambered for 308. Your quote: IP: Logged |
| Gecko45 Member Posts: 26 |
posted 03-25-2001 16:42
quote: It was a hostage situation that was hushed up. The SWAT prettyboys were overpowered by the Gap, and we Backup RTF'ers had to resume our roles, and basically put everything five by five. The takedown was actually applied with SW weapons, SW3's. It happened a while agao, and there is no way you would know what city I am in, so I can reveal these details, lets just say that the Mayor had really deep pockets to keep all of this out of the news. People aren't so holy and upstanding when you get out your checkbook, they start to "forget" stuff, at least that what I understood happened. IP: Logged |
| Gecko45 Member Posts: 26 |
posted 03-25-2001 16:51
quote: Sorry, I wanted to hear what to use with the SW5, I want to know what ammo he reccomends for the SW5, so I can start working on getting a case price discount for 9mm. I have such good result with American Eagle, that I will use it for target work, but I like to get the manufacturers reccomeNdation. I am using Hintenberger Match .308 to sight the SW3's in, and some South Afircan surplus for plinking. It does sound confusing the way I had just put it then.
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| Nordic Member Posts: 129 |
posted 03-25-2001 17:21
Oh my God, please tell me this is some kind of joke! I've seen better plots in the Sunday funnies! You're telling me that there was a hostage situation in one of the biggest malls in the nation and nobody knows about it?!?!? Oh, and the other part about you and "your team" on patrol around the mall with G36's..., I'm sure the local merchant's association just loves people in body armor carrying assault rifles in front of their shops. That must really bring in the business! Here's a tip for you. Why don't you unplug yourself from your Nintendo, throw out those comic books, and spend your time fantasizing about girls like most other 13-year-old boys! The only thing you've managed to accomplish here so far is completely embarrass yourself! If you really want to "defend and protect the lives" of people then do it by seeking some psychiatric help! The idea of you holding anything more deadly than your hot dog in your hand scares the hell out of us!!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
| SPECOPS Member Posts: 20 |
posted 03-25-2001 17:27
Listen, I don't expect you civilians to understand the situation. But bear with me and I'll see if I can pound it into you soft skulls. With the decay of society and the rotting away of the moral fiber of our country this world is getting more and more dangerous and down right mean. Who do you think protects you from the scum of this society??? The cops, the FBI, the army??? Guess again, it's the guys guarding your companies, your banks, your schools, your homes, your supermarkets, and yes smartass, even your malls. What good are the cops going to be if a shooter shows up at your workplace??? How about your kid's school, remember Columbine? I'll tell you what the cops will do, call the SWAT team and screw around trying to locate the front door for 30 minutes, while you or your children are shot down like prairie dogs at a drunken machinegun shoot. We are on site, when the cops are cruising around handing out speeding tickets or harrassing prostitutes. We risk our lives so you can go home to mommy at the end of the day and this is the respect we get??? Hell, I'd call some of us 'heroes', but I'm sure most of you juveniles don't understand the meaning of such a Distinguished word. So go play Rainbow Six and frag some 'tangos', and tell your mommy to bring you some milk and cookies. Meanwhile, my ass is one the line so your fat butt can go to the mall and pick up the latest copy of "Computer Gaming Monthly" without getting jumped and sodomized in the mall bathroom. Stay safe Gecko45! I got your back brother! IP: Logged |
| dr.hk Member Posts: 64 |
posted 03-25-2001 17:30
I think someone here has been watching a little too much tv. Where do these people come from? dr.hk IP: Logged |
| Gecko45 Member Posts: 26 |
posted 03-25-2001 17:38
We only patrol the roof, maitenance areas, and parking lots with rifles, MP5's for if TSHTF indoors, and Glock 30's on our belts. The MP5 is carried discreetly, under the seats of the electric transportation cart, and we only wear BDU's. It's not extreme to be prepared and the merchants don't mind, it keeps the Neonazi gangs and the Crips out of the mall. We did have a "situation", but such things are easily disguised as, say an evacuation due to a gas leak at one of the restaurants, and the operation of both sides was so well contained, that they almost got wawy with it, and we just managed to bring it to a halt. This is not a fantasy, it is myjob, and if it is too harsh of a reality for you armchair commandos, then get another beer, and change websites, because this is the real wolrd of CQB. I can hack it, can you, I do not think so, and your attempt to make fun of me is lame and childish. IP: Logged |
| dr.hk Member Posts: 64 |
posted 03-25-2001 17:44
Why have you come to this forum? Isn't there some kind of Mall Watchers of America forum or something? If you seriously have questions about Special Widgets and don't want to listen to anyone here then I suggest you visit Toads Special Widget site and forum. You guys are meant for eachother. dr.hk IP: Logged |
| DaveN Member Posts: 1 |
posted 03-25-2001 17:44
I ordered a pair of them Ninja wall climbing boots that you use in your mall and I got a pair of wallmart sneakers with inside out roach motels strapped to the bottoms..mine don't work so good, should I have ordered the nikes with the heavy duty Housing project super sticky roach Hiltons?.. Dave IP: Logged |
| SPECOPS Member Posts: 20 |
posted 03-25-2001 17:45
quote: Nordic, pull your thumb out of your butt and listen to me: We are here to protect 13 year old boys like yourself, so you don't get gang raped behind the dumpster outside the mall arcade, on your way home to mommy after killing some bad guys at the "Silent Scope" game. By the way, we aren't "seen" by the customers. We are low profile and only spring into action when we are needed. Even when we are 'working' you will rarely see us drop the perp and take him in for questioning. We work fast and avoid publicity. BTW, I don't used the platic POS HK. My team uses Colt R0933s. That's a .223 select fire M4 commando with a 11.5" bbl for those of you who don't know s#!t about guns that aren't on Rainbow Six. We cut down the stocks and PGs M4a1K 'heli-crew' style so that we can conceal them while we are 'plain-clothed.' Other versions have KAC RAS w/ foreward grip, Trijicon ReflexIIs, Insight Tech. tac lights and visible lasers. Also have a couple 14.5"bbl with Trijicon ACOG TA11, 3.5x35s for longer range work. Most of the 'kit' selection is up to the individual operator and his specialties. Go back to your shoot 'em up games, maybe you'll learn something. Remember, real life, doesn't have a 'reset game' option. IP: Logged |
| Gecko45 Member Posts: 26 |
posted 03-25-2001 17:45
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| Gecko45 Member Posts: 26 |
posted 03-25-2001 17:51
quote: Now if I could get approval for these type of M4 variants, there would be no problem. I would not have to fiddle around with HK's at all, those G36's could go to the Goddwill store here, and I would'nt look at em. I have a serious need for heavy firepower to repel intruders should it becoe necessary for me to go "Code Green" ever again, and none of you, not knpoing my job, can deny this. IP: Logged |
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